Well, well, well, things pretty much couldn't get worse for Katie Holmes. She's been impregnated by L.Ron-knows-who...and she's going to have to give birth to the "kid" drug free and silently.Scientologists are against drugs but insist on "silent birth" as they believe it's traumatic for babies to hear their mothers groan or cry.
"Maintain silence in the presence of birth to save the sanity of the mother and the child and safeguard the home to which they will go," said L.Ron in
What a wonderful world...at least Kabbalah let's you have caesarians...a nice stockpile vitamins will definitely do the trick for the pain hun!
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Silent and without drugs huh. Def sounds like the rule was written by a man.
There shall also be no grunting moaning or emission of any visceral noises during intercourse. That way us gents can claim that you enjoyed it but the rules prevented you from advertising it. HA!
I know...the guy was a total woman hater...I was reading some quotes of his a couple of days ago re: women and they were awful...I'll try to find and post them here...
love,
elisa
"It doesn't give me displeasure to hear of a virgin being raped. The lot of women is to be fornicated."
from "Affirmations". 1947
grr.
love,
elisa
Oh how lovely. It's like a pleasant little Haiku. The man was clearly a headcase.
Did anyone see John Revolting and his wife on ET last night being all sanctimonious about their silent births. Wish someone would tell them all that no one is buying this cr-- and to shut the fu-- up about it.
nealk, you are funny!! And L.Ron is disgusting. The 7 days of silence after birth should be a "pleasurable" experience for the baby -- to go from hearing voices in utero to silent abandonment. Don't they realize the first week could mean the difference between a level 6 and level 7 thetan?!?!
Elisa: are you serious? that can't be true. please god, say that's not true?
What if she needs to have a c-section? Would the aliens refuse or would they let her have surgery to be sure the baby is ok?
YOu can't have a c-section without anaesthitic!
I'm a mother of two, and I had the epidural the first time, and the hospital experience was so sucky I opted for a nice birthing center adjacent to a hospital and natural childbirth. Natural birth is a great choice (CHOICE in our society), and I enjoyed being able to go home and having my son so much more alert than my daughter. I don't think I could have done this with my first child. I would have been screaming to be taken to the hospital and given drugs anyway(even though inserting a big catheter into my spine hurt hellaciously).
It is NOT POSSIBLE to give birth silently. I'll believe Kelly Preston did this when I see it. Oh, I tried that hypnobirthing crap for painless deliver. YEAH RIGHT!! Natural or otherwise, screaming is a NORMAL and HEALTHY response to the entire process. You can read in countless sources that it is virtually involuntary. I heard the screams coming out of me and there was nothing I could do about it. It keeps you from going insane.
And ya know, the womb aint quiet. Your babies recognize your voice, their dad's voice, your friend's voices and maybe even the sound of your dog's bark, and pieces of music. Those are facts.
I think this is proof that anyone who is a Scientologist has a sub-par IQ.
I'm sure she'll be really quiet when they stitch her up without any pain relief either. Even with topical stuff, having my upper inner labia reattached to my clitoris with a needle after giving birth was rather profanity inducing.
And graphic.
oh, man. having given birth to a large child who insisted on coming out facing the wrong way and at a funky angle, and having personally experienced the joy of ripping open (and by that time i was on an epi, and it was STILL screamingly agonizing), all i can say is...
yes! with any luck kate will leap from the birthing bed and strangle t.cruise to death and that'll be the end of him!
What exactly constitutes noise in a delivery room? Does Ron think a marching band is too much noise or the natural 'baby's head feels like a roll of barbed wire squeezing it's way out of my vagina so forgive me if I may moan a little' noise considered too much? I'm sure it's much better for mom and baby to suppress any such noises to the point of bursting an aneurysm. This guy is such a freak and you know he's laughing in his grave at the stupid things he's getting people to do, that he just sadistically made up to get back at all the people who did him wrong in his life.
Oh Elisa! Did he really say that? That's it, I'm digging him up and kicking his bony ass! I did see John and Kelly on ET and they just made me kind of laugh actually. I could hear them thinking through their fake plastered on smiles "Kelly, what the hell? Katie's pregnant? But Tom's shooting blanks! (keep smiling) How could this be? (keep smiling) Quick,just tell them some L.Ron silent birth mumbo jumbo to confuse everyone while I go call Tom.
Michelle Williams is probably laughing her ass off right now. Katie copied her idea to get pregnant to get media attention and now she's being forced to be silent while she's in extreme pain and being refused pain reducing drugs. You know Jen is loving this.
The only thing dumber than that silent rule is anyone who agrees to go along with it....my GOD!!! Cult, cult, cult. I'm very glad the truth's all coming lately about it.
OMG...childbirth sounds so traumatic! Good on you all you girls for you and our kiddies getting through it in one piece...and big snaps if you screamed extra loud :) If it wasn't so natural...I'd say childbirth almost sounds unnatural :)
Yeah...I think he said the rape thing early on in his career...and I'm pretty sure he changed his tune once Dianetics came around??? (after the 50s I think he starts saying rape is torture and murder)
but I'm not sure on exact details...I'm sure someone else can probably correct me :)
love,
elisa
it's a little bit unnatural, or at least unnatural compared to other animal species. humans have more trouble with childbirth than any other animal because a) we keep our babies inside us for a pretty long time given our relative sizes, and they're still born fairly underdeveloped and b) we have very large heads relative to our body sizes and the size of our pelvises. our evolution into large-brained, fairly-delicate-bodied creatures made it harder and more painful for us to shove a baby's head out.
yeah...those damn pelvis' had to shrink when we started walking upright....grrrr....
with better diets (I'm presuming larger babies) I'm guessing it's only going to get worse :(
love,
elisa
p.s. I think I'd totally chicken out and have a pre-planned caesarian...
yeah...I guess there's no shortcut to childbirth....hmmm
love,
elisa
OMG, ladies. I'm so not having kids now. It's settled. I'm not that brave.
haha...I agree Dawn...the whole damn thing is terrifying...
love,
elisa
I thought Tom Cruise couldnt get any one preggers. Wasnt this a big thing in his marriage to Mimi Rogers (who turned him onto scientology)?
I have a friend who is an ex-scientologist and she tells me that they encourage adoption so that the bond between parent and child is weaker as nothing should be stronger than the bond between the 'church' and the believer.
Creepy. I live really near all these scientology buildings and its all I can do not to scream "cult" out the window every time I go by.
yeah...they encourage child neglection basically...I think xenu.com has a few few videos of families that excaped...some of the girls were saying that since their parents worked (for the church) like 14 hours days...they would be left in these child dormitories doing work (for the church) and only see their parents at night...or if their parents were in another part of America (doing church work) would practically never see then...scary stuff...
love,
elisa
My blood boils up when reading that f..ing *haiku* about raping women - totally hate now this cult or whatever...
About birth and sounds: it is not as horrible as we so vividly detailed it here in this comments section, totally off-topic, ha-ha.
Elisa, and others - you might hate me for saying the following, but a woman who gives birth does not necessarily in the need of sceraming. What Ron say is bullshit, the child hears a lot of words while inside the womb. Entering a silent word is frightening for the baby. Porbably that's what the cult wants, pffft.
But screaming takes away a lot of energy which is a bad bad thing during labor. (speaking from experience)
haha franci...thanks for the re-assuring words...but I'm still terrified...
I'm a worrier...I think if I ever got pregnant I'd be a nervous wreck for 9 months just thinking of everything that could go wrong...
I don't think it's for me :)
love,
elisa
Elisa darling, you have so much common sense and sense of humor - both features are needed for being a mother. But it's your decision. At your tender age, I was unable to visualize myself as a mother, either.
aww...thanks Franci...I know you're an awesome mother yourself...I can tell your kids are NEVER going to have Paris Hilton as their role-model :)
love,
elisa
Someone told over the weekend that the children of scientologists aren't supposed to get medical treatment for a certain amount of years. Could be bullshit but thats what I was told. Also if your child injures itself, say for example hits it's head on a table, you're not supposed to comfort it or anything you're supposed to hold it's head/whatever against whatever it hit and the pain will flow back into the whatever it hit. The mind boggles. I've never heard such ridiculous crap as what comes from this "Religion". Bottom line this is a belief system created by a mediocre (at best) admitted junkie sci-fi writer. How could it not be fact?
oh and wait til you hear the punchline, what the core beliefs that are only revealed after years of practice. Seriously look it up it's good stuff.
Go here to be enlightened:
http://www.xenu.net
/archive/leaflet/
yup...you're 100% right about the medical treatment thing...for example...if you hit your knee on a table...you have to do 'repeat contact' again and again until the pain goes away...or something...
that's a funny pamphlet Nealk...insane huh.
If you've got a bit of time...a nice site is:
www.xenutv.com/interviews
I've only seen the Woodcraft family's Scientology story...but it was so sad...it's great that the girl's came out pretty normal...
much love,
elisa
Elisa, I promise you -- childbirth, when done in a productive and natural way (ie not lying on your back, strapped to a bed), it's not nearly what's being described. I've had 2 kids sans drugs and sans hospital. Also, vocalization isn't necessary nor harmful. I made almost no noise at all during my first labor, but was very vocal during my second. Before you get pregnant, read the book "Gentle Birth Choices" by Barbara Harper, RN. http://www.midwiferytoday.com/Reviews/gentlebirthchoices.asp
Silent? I don't believe it is possible. Having delivered a dozen or so babies as a student, very few births particularly first births have been without the utterance of a few explicative words.
Maybe she can get Tom to take a powder during the event?
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